Day 38: A Night with London Playboy & Mr M
October 22, 2009 by Aaron P
Filed under Project Rockstar Blog
Day
We cancelled our session with Sasha as well, it just wasn’t going to work out. I checked into a hotel near Rockstar West. Did some daygame with Adam, Micha and Trackstar. I ended up practicing what I’m calling Micha game.
One of the Asian girls that I stopped during the post-work rush hour was interesting. She was cute, very cute. Strangely enough she was more nervous about the whole thing that I should have been… something along the lines of “oh my god, nobody ever says that to me.” Why I did not number-close her and set up a date I have no fucking idea… fuck this emotional intent stuff.
Night
Tonight actually marked the countdown of the final two weeks of Project Rockstar.
We were supposed to head out to Jalouse for their one year anniversary, so we rocked up to Loop at 9:30pm and met up with the Navy Seals. The line to get into Jalouse was absolutely insane, and they were enforcing their collared shirt policy with a vengeance. Micha and Vercetti ended up going to Jalouse, the rest of us rocked up to Movida.
We ended up doing essentially what were one-on-ones with London Playboy (http://www.thesocialcoach.com/) and Mr M. We also got to watch Mr M hit on a superhot blonde girl… it was awesomeness in action. Mr M also did an exercise where he hit on Alex and me as-if we were girls, so that we could model the vibe that he gives out in set. It was fucking weird (to us and to the bar staff and girls watching), and it’s going to take some unconscious uptake to integrate what I’ve learnt, but I’ll outline some of my notes about it below.
Here are the sets I did, and feedback from London Playboy and Mr M-
American Birthday Girls. London Playboy sent me in. I told him that I would be in there for 30 seconds to 1 minute then I’d be out. And I was right. Opened, intros all round, found out it was a birthday, waved to the birthday girl and started talking to her. Friends turned away, leaving me one-on-one with the birthday girl
We talked for a while – my main focus has been on verbal game lately, so I wasn’t really physically escalating all that much. We just talked, and I started using some of the teases that I’ve been learning, like “so basically you think you’re better than me”. I got an emotional reaction – just not the one I wanted… she ended up apologising for what she said haha. #-closed and facebook-closed. Pinged her earlier today but haven’t gotten a response.
The only feedback from London Playboy about this set was to physically escalate more.
Blonde & Brunette. This was a two-set that I ran with London Playboy and Mr M sitting across from us on the opposite couch and listening in on the whole thing. I opened with hi, talked a bit then Jeff came in to wing me. I ended up talking to the blonde, Jeff to the brunette. The set didn’t really go anywhere – just a long conversation, lots of conversational and logical attraction, some frames set but no BT spikes. I got her facebook, but she wouldn’t give me her number. Ah.
There was a ton of feedback from London Playboy and Mr M about this set. The first one was sexual communication – talking overtly about sex in a comfortable and non-sleazy way. This is something I need to do and train. I also got feedback on my body language in seated sets, never to cross my legs, never to hold my hands together and to do bigger takeaways.
Winging Alex. Alex was talked to two hot brunettes. Turns out they were sisters and both models. One was dressed in a spring dress, the other in a Xena-looking leather gladiator outfit. We stood and talked for a while, then sat them down. Again, I ran intrigue-based attraction on the older sister, but I knew that it wasn’t doing it. I did fix a lot of body language and other things that Mr M & London Playboy had told me after the set before, but the girl kept looking away for other people to talk to. I’m seeing more and more now that what I need to do is start training my teasing neural nets, as being able to tease well is *the* foundation of verbal attraction game.
Apparently I improved a lot in this set (body language). Again, the weak point was a lack of state-based attraction and takeaways.
Outer Game
- Verbal Game – opening, transitioning. Done.
- Verbal Game – attraction. Follow up with Sheriff. Teasing and Sexual talk neural net training. Practice intrigue-based attraction via scenarios.
- Verbal Game – vibing, qualification. Practice via scenarios.
- Verbal Game – SOIs. I need to list out more of these, add more emotional oomph to them and roll them into vibing/qualifiaction.
- Logistical Escalation. Getting better (especially locking in). Needs more field work though.
- Physical Escalation. Why did I take this away? Should be doing this *always*.
- Takeaways. I now have a good unconscious understanding of what this looks like. Time to start implementing.
- Delivery. As per takeaways.
- Logistical Escalation. Yup, I’ve remembered to contact close in most of the sets I’ve done.
- Identity & Beliefs. Need to play around more with Micha-game.
- Capitalising on reads in real-time (this is a behaviour-level change). Needs more exploration. Still not automatically doing this in set.
- Boundary function.
- Self-image. Loving myself more.
- Intent. The solution that London Playboy has suggested is to “fake it until you make it”. This is in body language, in verbals etc etc…
Learnings and Thoughts
- My biggest leverage point now is verbal attraction game, specifically teasing and sexual talk. I will practice these via written scenarios – I’m going to try to write out one per day.
- I made a commitment with Alex that every time we’re out, we are going to try to logistically escalate as far as we can and bounce girls back. Even if it’s just for practice.
- Quote from London Playboy about me: “You know what I like about this guy? Every time I tell him to do a set he complains about it and tells me why it won’t work and then he goes and does it.” I think this is a reflection of my inner game and self-image. I don’t really have that much of a formulation of how I view myself (in contrast to someone like Alex who truly loves himself). I am going to work on this.
- Speaking of London Playboy… could anyone ask for a better teacher? Very chill, does not pressure you with weird doses of social anxiety, very warm, and yet provides feedback you can actually put into use. Love it.
Mr M Hitting On Me
As I mentioned before, Mr M did a demo where he pretended that Alex and I were girls and hit on us, to allow us to model his vibe and game. Here’s what I learnt from it:
- Break rapport. Always. Lots of takeaways (BIG takeaways), on emotional high points.
- Non-sequitur teases.
- Sexual talk presented as just normal conversation. Like talking about sex positions.
- Insane eye contact and cockiness.
- Very dominant physical escalation. Face touches and strokes.
- Make the girl feel that she needs to comply.
- Physical game. Leaning on the girl, pushing into her etc etc
- Checking her out head-to-toe to build sexual tension.
- Cocky happy asshole vibe.
- The core of this is holding his own internal state and just throwing things out there to entertain himself.
- Aaron P
Days 36-37: Not Funny
October 20, 2009 by Aaron P
Filed under Project Rockstar Blog
Monday
Spent the morning in a session with ubermentor Jeff talking about real estate and asset protection. I then went back to Rockstar West to sleep for a while, as I was up late the night before with a fever.
Josh and Micha joined Vercetti in the evening for salsa and game, I stayed in to rest. I ended up talking with Alex for hours about online business, and we came up with some truly wicked stuff. The kind of stuff that you haven’t seen published in any ebook, guru course or anything ANYWHERE.
I also spent some time practicing intrigue-based attraction routines, in the form of baits and frames.
Tuesday
Had an early-morning session with Sheriff about qualification and breakthrough comfort. Without going into crazy amounts of detail, the basic process is the elicit her values via information she gives you, and then feed these back to her in the form of cold reads or statements or third-person framing. For comfort, Sheriff and Mr M mentioned that I need to convey more emotion when discussion my passions and purposes… even if I need to start becoming good at lying about the amount of emotional impact that they have on me. They also told me that this is a good principle or concept to apply when delivering things like SOIs or qualifying girls who really don’t have that much going for them apart from their looks (god this makes us sound manipulative).
Alex then gave an absolutely gangster talk on SEO and how to apply some of the SCM concepts we’ve been learning into it.
All this talk of business is great… I love it. But in the context of the last couple of weeks of Project Rockstar, it’s bad for me. It’s shifting my RAS back to doing business and the other parts of my life rather than focussing it on game, which is where it should be at the moment. I’m going to sit down with Micha a bit later tonight and do some modelling work on his mindsets about women and how he focuses his RAS on women all the time (even though his is starting to shift towards money and wealth creation too).
We spent the afternoon in-field for daygame. Our instructor for the day was Sasha (http://www.sashapua.com/), and we also got to meet Ace, one of the London Community’s old-hands. Sasha went through a lot of exceptionally good theory about daygame, about using short, punchy 30-second hook stories, different types of openers and different ways of infusing humour into our openers. Basically making pickup more fun and light-hearted.
Sasha is one of those instructors who knows what he’s talking about, and I’m really glad I wrote down all the things he told us, and then tested them out in-field… otherwise I’d only be writing bad things about him right now. His theories and application of them is great. The way he treated some of the Rockstars… not so much. He threw out some racial slurs at me and some anti-Irish insults at Conor, and some general insults all round for the Rockstars. This did not create the best of emotions in us, and thus when it came time for him to push us in-field, most of us just flatly refused. I pulled him aside and laid down some boundaries: I told him that we respected and appreciated that he had come all the way from Canada to teach us, that his material and what he had taught us was awesome… but that he was also causing us bad emotions and we felt offended by some of the things that he had said. We agreed to just focus on the daygame and in-field.
Josh and I were walking ahead of the group, and started approaching women. In contrast to the bad moods that we had previously, we were having so much fun that we just wandered off and did our own thing. In all fairness, I used the openers that Sasha and Ace had given us. Mostly variations of delayed humour, or openers that would normally cause some level of social anxiety. And they work, really well. Obviously they need more practice and fluency to be able to used effectively and consistently, but it is bloody awesome to have a new set or class of openers to use rather than just bread-and-butter direct for daygame.
We ended up being joined by Micha and investing mentor Trackstar later on, and did daygame on the streets of London until dinnertime.
Sticking Point stuff I’ve been working on-
Outer Game
- Verbal Game – opening, transitioning. It works. Yay. Can throw humour-based openers into here too.
- Verbal Game – attraction. Needs more work. Intrigue-based stuff is almost down. Next in this category is teasing & roleplays Braddock-style. Sheriff has some advice in this area too.
- Verbal Game – vibing. Fits well into qualification the way Sheriff suggests doing it. Needs more field testing.
- Verbal Game – qualification. I’m combining this into “vibing” as it fits in well there.
- Verbal Game – SOIs. I need to list out more of these, add more emotional oomph to them and roll them into vibing/qualifiaction.
- Logistical Escalation. Needs field practice.
- Physical Escalation.
- Takeaways.
- Delivery.
- Logistical Escalation. Needs field testing.
- Identity & Beliefs. I’ve explored the sexual vibe that I saw in Dahunter/Brad P/Starlight. Now to field test it. I’m doing a modelling exercise with Micha later about his vibe and the way his RAS works.
- Capitalising on reads in real-time (this is a behaviour-level change). Done. Initial field testing shows that I’m aware of how to capitalise on them but I’m not, because for the most part the intent is not there and I really don’t care. I need to explore this more.
- Boundary function. I think I exercised this pretty well today
- Aaron P
Day 30: The Matrix
October 14, 2009 by Aaron P
Filed under Project Rockstar Blog
The Day
I started the day with lunch with my buddy ZeroSum from SF and Vishal and Micha. I then had to prepare for the Rockstar-only Internet Marketing presentation I was putting on. It was funny, as Alex and I ran around looking for a projector, and somehow talked event services into giving us one for free
The talk went great, but was grossly overtime. My apologies to Alex for that!
Following that we sat in on Mr M’s Social Circle Mastery seminar. I have taken Braddock’s version of it in the past, and it’s always good to get a different perspective. Despite eight hours of sleep the prior night though, I was still physically shattered… and Vishal had booked a table at XS for the night. So around 10pm or so we headed off to get ready to head out.
The Night
Tonight was supposed to be all about chilling and relaxing and just having fun. Micha was supposed to arrive with his date and her six friends, but that never materialised
I was content to just chill and enjoy my last night in Vegas but the drinks started arriving and Vishal wanted to talk to girls, so off we went. It turned out a bunch of the other instructors (Future, Prestige, Keychain, Starlight) were at XS too. We ran a bunch of sets, most of them going nowhere for me although Vishal was on fire.
There was only one set really worth mentioning. Vishal had opened her friend, so I just decided to go up and go direct on her anyway. We got talking and flirting a bit and her friend and her sat down with us at our table. She was probably one of only about three really cool girls that I have met all year. Spanish-Chinese, cute, good personality, very independent and successful and extremely worldly. I loved every minute of the conversation… even if most of it was spent force framing everything she said sexually
I’m starting to wonder if my issues with not being able to emotionally connect with the majority of women is actually just because I’m looking for a very specific type of woman, and that the non-emotional connects need to be there first before the emotional connect can take place.
The set went great. We talked. I carressed her neck. She grabbed my tie. We kissed. We looked into each others eyes. We told each other how much we liked each other. She said she wanted to leave. I said in a bit.
Then at some point, everything abruptly ended. She turned to her friend, said something, then they got up and left. In retrospect, I know exactly what I had needed to say to make her stay, and what I needed to do logistically to have spent the night with her.
Beyond that though, is that I didn’t number-close or facebook-close or get her contact details… even if we didn’t hook up she was still be a fucking cool person to have as a friend. This annoys me more than not getting laid
In case you’re wondering, what I should have said was “Hey look. I really meant what I said. I think that you are an incredible woman, and even if I didn’t want to take you upstairs right now and do all sorts of dirty and nasty things to you, we would still hang out.” This would be followed up by grabbing her hand, pulling her up from the table and leading her from the table to her room with “Let’s go.”
Outer Game
- Verbal Game – attraction. I still need to do some real off-field work on this. But I did practice the basic strategy behind eliciting and framing all night… but there were still silent moments.
- Verbal Game – vibing. Combining California Pimp’s structure with Juggler’s will be interesting.
- Verbal Game – qualification. I’m using California Pimp-style questions for qualification. These basically qualify a girl on her identity as a woman, her compliance to you and her looks. I am going to start using these more as it’s a really good way to qualify girls who I’m not that into for non-emotional stuff (the majority of girls I meet), and they hit hard.
- Verbal Game – SOIs. I need to make them a habit so that they just happen in set and have a repertoire of them to use.
- Logistical Escalation. Time to do some inner game work on this to make it a habit. The number-close should be automatic during spikes in attraction and the logistical lead should just happen. I should always be leading, rather than waiting for her to lead. This only changes at a certain point when we’re already in seduction.
- Physical Escalation.
- Takeaways.
- Delivery.
Inner Game
- Logistical Escalation. See above.
- Identity & Beliefs. Still to work on: girls find me attractive, girls check me out, I am sexworthy, I am a man who makes things happen.
- Capitalising on reads in real-time (this is a behaviour-level change).
- Boundary function.
Learnings
- More Awkward is Less Awkward when winging. Just fucking go in guns blazing and be dominant. Don’t blow wing out.
- I feel like my ability to see the social matrix is starting to skyrocket. I said to Vishal last night: “It’s weird dude. I can see exactly the probabilities of each set working out and where we’re going to lose them, and I can see all the approach invitations and all the high probability sets… but I don’t act on them. What I like about you, is that you don’t look at any of that stuff and you just act on it.”
- I’m realising that I am bloody good at reading when a set in interested, when they’re not, when they’re likely to open or not and to some extent the exact moment that myself or the other Rockstars will get blown out or have hooked the set. I need to capitalise on this ability more however, and have some default behaviours for advancing the interaction based on these reads.
- Aaron P
Day 13: Storming Munich
September 26, 2009 by Aaron P
Filed under Project Rockstar Blog
The What
Absolutely awesome day.
Woke up in the morning and had the time to get ready properly, do some shopping and even to start reviewing some of the notes that I’ve taken over the past 12 days.
I then headed out with Mr M & Soul to the first day of the Munich bootcamp (http://www.lovesystems.com), and met up with the rest of the Rockstars there.
We sat in on the bootcamp seminar as both students and approach coaches. For me, this was my first Love Systems bootcamp, so it was pretty enlightening. The material presented was very different from what I’ve seen taught by other companies, and is definitely more geared towards people who like to think things out logically and structurally.
After 5 hours of seminar, we headed for dinner at this awesome German “fast food” place called Ocui. You take a swipe card, get your food freshly prepared, grab a glass of wine and then sit down in an urban-chic restaurant and have healthy and awesome food.
Following dinner we all rushed back to prepare for field time. Soul, Mr M and myself also met up with a journalist who wanted to cover the bootcamp for a local paper.
But onto infield…
This was a HUGE bootcamp. 4 instructors, 6 rockstars and our tour manager Conor approach coaching, as well as locals Frame and MunichHawk and ubermentor Jeff approach-coaching too. We hit up 2 clubs in central Munich.
I only did about 5-6 sets over the course of the night, most of the time was spent making sure the students were being pushed into sets, that they were opening properly and getting into interactions. It’s kind of reflective to see what the past 10 or so days of being pushed ourselves into sets that we don’t want to do has done to our game and calibration.
All the students were phenomenal, approaching, opening, going direct, getting numbers, kiss closes and all sorts of other chaos. Congratulations to all!
I did do a couple of demo sets~
The first was an attempt to show a student what a blow out looked like, and that it doesn’t matter if a girl “rejects” you. It didn’t quite work. Some tall, hot German girls walks past. I grab her, pull her in. I tell her she is adorable. We talk. We exchange names. We get up close. We talk more. I realise that I’m supposed to be coaching the student. We talk more, and exchange flirtatious eye contact. She promises me a dance later.
The second that I remember was showing a student how to go in “semi-direct”, or basically walking up to a girl and just introducing yourself. This was in the outside area. This girl was cute. Sexy cute. She had a small piercing just below her lower-right lip and a tongue piercing. After talking with the student for a few minutes, encouraging him to approach I decide to do it instead. Normally this would be perceived as awkward, having hovered around the girl for five minutes. But what is more awkward is less awkward, but what is less awkward is more awkward (credit: TD). I open, sit down and we exchange names. She has an American accent. I ask her about it. She says that she has been to Australia. That is perfect for me, and we connect, and talk, and talk, and talk. All throughout I am doing social touching (touching her on her arm, her upper arm, her elbow, her shoulder), and “clawing” her in on emotional high points for a sideways hug (credit: Tim). I glance up at the student, and decided that the point has been made – you can open, and talk to a girl, just by going up and saying hi. I leave the set. In retrospect, I should have number-closed or facebook-closed this girl, as all the signs of interest were there. More in this below.
The third I remember was towards the end of the night. I spotted a girl standing by herself looking bored on the fringes of her group. I go up. I say hi. I pull her in towards me, introduce myself, and ask for her name. It is something German. At this point there are 5cm between our faces. We talk. And dance. I spin her around, push her away, grab her in. Soon we are locking fingers, and we are waltzing. Her arms go around my neck. I go to kiss her – no go. I spin her away, and back. We talk in what is known as “vibing” – where the content of the conversation is less important than the emotional message conveyed behind it. I go to kiss her again. She turns her head away. Spin away, pull her back in, and then I look deeply into her eyes. The tension builds as she gets the message… she is the first to break the tension, saying “no, no, not tonight…” I pull her in, arm around her waist and we just rock on the spot for a bit. At this point, I am somewhat bored, I whisper something to her, and bid her farewell…
The rest of my sets pretty much involved me grabbing girls as they walked past, whispering sweet nothings into their ears, watching them smile… and exchanging some flirtatious eye contact while their less attractive friends dragged them away
I also had the opportunity to watch Mr M & Vercetti in set. They are phenomenal. It is both awesome and worrying that as they walked around the venue… they were checked out and ogled over by both German women… and men
It is starting to dawn on me the progress we have made and are making in Rockstar. I know some of us were worried, that we wouldn’t be ready or have made enough progress as last year’s Rockstars because of less field time… but after tonight, everything is starting to come together.
Takeaways
- Teaching pickup totally changes the nature of the game and your inner game. There is something very, very different about walking into a venue and then directing the social interactions that happen in there. It’s almost like you become master of the venue and are able to influence or even manipulate the social variables there – and when you can do that, there’s no need to be anxious or even a real need for state.
- Sexual intent: this is still my main sticking point. For example, getting bored with the set towards the end of the night, or not automatically going for some sort of contact close in every set past hook point (where the girl has been engaged). Mr M says that this is pretty much a “you need to pull the trigger” problem, and is a habit to break and reform. Soul says that it’s a matter of finding hotter girls or making each set more challenging to myself. Mr M also mentioned the notion of “ohhhh”… where you see a girl, and she just does all the right things for you and you can picture yourself doing all sorts of dirty and sexy things to her.
- Escalation: I am going to structure my physical escalation more- same basic structure in the beginning, but a smoother escalation towards a kiss… touching her face, brushing away her hair, pulling her hair first… before kissing. I am also going to add in a basic two-step qualification to all the sets I run.
- Framing – friendly frame. Almost everyone I talk to I mention that the people in XYZ country are really friendly. It sets the right frame, and subsequently makes them friendlier!
- Nonsensical vibing. Something that describes how Braddock games and teases. I don’t really understand it yet, but have heard it and it’s both funny and effective, and something that I should add to my game.
Highlights of the Day
- Konichiwa opener: For probably the third time in my life I was opened my a girl. A HOT girl. She was walking past with her less attractive friend, and we made eye contact. She says: “Konichiwa! Are you Japanese?” My mind went: “No, but IT’S ON!!” I grabbed her while her friend vanished outside. We talk, we get up close, we talk… I tease her, touch her, grab her, pull her in… the words are meaningless, the meaning is in what we are doing with our gestures, our touching, and our eye contact. And then the friend reappears. And grabs her, apologises, and takes her away. As she is being dragged away, she is looking back, with a “I really want to spend more time with you” look in her eyes. I mentioned what had happened to Mr M and the Konichiwa opener is to be field tested tonight- whether the girl looks Japanese or not.
- Straight German guys offering to buy us drinks – told you people here are friendly.
- Quote of the day from Mr M: “Fuck, I never win that game” (in reference to who gets to use the bathroom first).
- Aaron P








